tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2502695489360674806.post3235199252437104193..comments2023-10-31T09:14:26.930-05:00Comments on Manifesto Joe's Texas Blues: Misgivings About Obama's Afghanistan PolicyManifesto Joehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06521151220297061304noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2502695489360674806.post-70069129322877651882009-12-11T08:34:28.257-06:002009-12-11T08:34:28.257-06:00@Marc McDonald:
Right on. Dick Cheney is now the V...@Marc McDonald:<br />Right on. Dick Cheney is now the Vice President of his own home and nothing more.<br />He and his administration dropped the ball on 9/11. He has no business telling anyone what would make us safer. The biggest terrorist attack on our soil happened on his watch. That is in fact what has made us "less safe." That, and the wars he was co-architect of. <br />-SJSJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17181694732531476160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2502695489360674806.post-79956622433292476152009-12-09T21:58:00.305-06:002009-12-09T21:58:00.305-06:00On Fox News last night, Dick Cheney accused Obama ...On Fox News last night, Dick Cheney accused Obama of "giving aid and comfort" to our nation's enemies. (In other words, committing treason).<br /><br />I may do a piece on my blog about this, if I get the chance.<br /><br />But in the meantime, I just have to ask (1) Who the f*ck cares about what Dick Cheney thinks and (2) Why is it that the Libs sit back and let the GOP pound them like this time and time again---and yet we never take off the gloves and respond forcefully?Marc McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17105754072842852126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2502695489360674806.post-26393991858384652842009-12-09T15:57:36.223-06:002009-12-09T15:57:36.223-06:00P.S:
Then I seem to remember Rush Limbaugh gettin...P.S:<br /><br />Then I seem to remember Rush Limbaugh getting out of the draft because of a boil on his fat ass ...Manifesto Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06521151220297061304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2502695489360674806.post-81989979374101433882009-12-09T15:48:52.874-06:002009-12-09T15:48:52.874-06:00Hi, Anon:
You mean conservatives like Dick Cheney...Hi, Anon:<br /><br />You mean conservatives like Dick Cheney, with all those draft deferments? How many was it -- 5?Manifesto Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06521151220297061304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2502695489360674806.post-74278404914764409652009-12-08T22:20:24.277-06:002009-12-08T22:20:24.277-06:00Why don't you Liberals GET WITH THE PROGRAM an...Why don't you Liberals GET WITH THE PROGRAM and support your country for a change. The troops who are putting their lives on the line in this Moslem nations are protecting YOUR freedoms. If we don't fight them there, then we will surely face them here. Why don't you Libs enlist and serve your country.....seems like the Republicans are the only ones with the balls to put on the uniform and serve their country during time of war.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2502695489360674806.post-67201750226939587212009-12-08T16:08:01.838-06:002009-12-08T16:08:01.838-06:00I agree that Iraq was a complete waste as far as d...I agree that Iraq was a complete waste as far as deterring any future 9-11. Afghanistan may be another matter. AQ has already shown us, quite vividly, that they can reach us. An important thing for them to know is that we can also reach them.Manifesto Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06521151220297061304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2502695489360674806.post-55686736213417232322009-12-08T14:59:53.636-06:002009-12-08T14:59:53.636-06:00Hi, Manifesto Joe, you make some good points, but:...Hi, Manifesto Joe, you make some good points, but:<br />re:<br />>>History gives me the impression<br />>>that this would be another nasty<br />>>attack waiting to happen.<br /><br />Yes, but let's face it, the U.S. WILL face more 9/11 style attacks. Does anyone really believe seriously otherwise?<br /><br />Al Qaeda took eight years after the 1993 WTC attacks to launch another major attack on 9/11.<br /><br />This group is patient and quietly takes years and years to very meticulously put together attacks.<br /><br />Yes, we've deterred a few attacks since then. But the people we've arrested are frankly a bunch of amateur bozos. Maybe they were inspired by AQ---but they weren't THE AQ that hit us on 9/11. The latter are pros and are lethally efficient. And I don't believe they've even tried to attack since us since 9/11....instead, they're biding their time and fine-tuning their plans. After all, unlike in a conventional war, there's no real hurry, or deadlines to meet. Timelines are unimportant. Success is all that matters.<br /><br />And I can't believe that the ongoing wars in Iraq or Afghanistan have done anything whatsoever to deter any future 9/11s.<br /><br />To the contrary: the U.S. has invested so many resources into pursuing those wars that we are still shockingly vulnerable at home.<br /><br />Example: the vast majority of cargo entering America is still not screened in any meaningful way.<br /><br />And random spot tests by officials have indicated that it's still amazingly easy to smuggle weapons aboard commercial airliners.<br /><br />Nothing substantial has really changed since 9/11 in protecting the American homefront. The only real difference is that now we're required to take off our shoes when entering an airport terminal.Marc McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17105754072842852126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2502695489360674806.post-23081647515667417872009-12-08T03:35:41.991-06:002009-12-08T03:35:41.991-06:00Hi, guys. Marc, I agree that "blowback" ...Hi, guys. Marc, I agree that "blowback" has brought much grief to the U.S., and perhaps quite deservedly. But then you face a problem of what, pragmatically, to do once a devastating attack has already occurred. I wish the U.S. could go back to having a small Army and withdraw from world conflicts even more than ever in the past. History gives me the impression that this would be another nasty attack waiting to happen. The hard thing for the U.S. is going to be how to find some reasonable middle ground -- to have enough military power to deter bullies, but to cease being an international bully ourselves.Manifesto Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06521151220297061304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2502695489360674806.post-37477483259168290772009-12-07T22:00:33.074-06:002009-12-07T22:00:33.074-06:00As much as I despise Republicans, I have to admit,...As much as I despise Republicans, I have to admit, I'm in the Ron Paul camp on the issue of overseas military involvement.<br /><br />If I had it my way, we'd withdraw from both Iraq and Afghanistan and close all overseas military bases. <br /><br />Neither Iraq or Afghanistan is a winnable war. Both will drag on for many years, with the only result being the deaths of hundreds of thousands of men, women and children civilians and the waste of trillions of our tax dollars.<br /><br />Incidentally, the Islamic terrorist threat the U.S. faces is a RESULT of the U.S. presence in many Islamic nations. Our actions overseas cause blowback (the CIA's own term) and that leads to things like 9/11.<br /><br />We can expect more blowback in the future as a result of the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We're only making things worse by continuing those misguided wars.<br /><br />Does anyone else find it strange that a nation like Sweden never faces terrorist attacks and yet that nation has no military bases overseas and a small defense budget?Marc McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17105754072842852126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2502695489360674806.post-32384378767865241522009-12-06T16:58:30.384-06:002009-12-06T16:58:30.384-06:00I think you have summed the scenario up nicely and...I think you have summed the scenario up nicely and are correct in your analysis, Manifesto Joe. This is SUCH a slippery slope. With warmongers like Dick and Liz Cheney out beating their drums every day, it is a very sorry scene. I just hope we don't see the emergence of another manufactured "Gulf of Tonkin incident" this time around. I wouldn't put anything past the Cheneys, or mercenary members of the military/industrial complex like Blackwater...Jack Jodellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02165430903903838990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2502695489360674806.post-63278551473238086632009-12-06T15:14:52.995-06:002009-12-06T15:14:52.995-06:00I'm sorry, but I withdraw all support (not tha...I'm sorry, but I withdraw all support (not that it would paid for a taxi ride to the end of the block). For all the reasons that you named, I don't think it can work. Obama is now just another variation of "the big tough American" out to fix the world.Ron Southernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08604305014713612990noreply@blogger.com